Biodiesel Production Line ” of “ biology qualitative the sources of energy already was written two years into governmental working report continuously and begin to present a development state with scene advance side by side- do two or more things at once, industry also is broken before depressing, organize all sorts of communication seminars to ask development. But doubt live thing is simple can sound never abreaction, this industry that already got decision-making layer is approbated, how should borrow this policy driving force of revolution to walk into the spring of development? Should we give why are its planted fixed position? Our newspaper reporter recently special interview China but live thing of society of second birth the sources of energy is simple can only appoint live thing of place of the sources of energy of Guangzhou of conference chairman, Chinese Academy of Sciences is simple can Zhen Hong of Yuan of central chief scientist’s researcher. 15-20 of our country development lays material 100 million tons can the newspaper of Chinese the sources of energy that resources capacity is a likelihood: How do you think our country should locate biology pledges energy industry? Yuan Zhenhong: Governmental working report of these two years brings into raw material the sources of energy among them, explain raw material can begin to get the approbating of the level central. Various viewpoints oppugn raw material the sources of energy now, basically think live thing is simple dispersive, density is small, too big effect cannot have in structure of national energy resources. In fact, raw material can be in China, produced tremendous effect in the country especially. Above all, raw material can be the mankind uses one of the earliest the sources of energy, the raw material such as one up-to-date straw can remain important the sources of energy in our country country; Next, live thing is simple can development potential is very great, besides straw, urban rubbish, organic litter, it is raw material can resource. According to estimation, quantity of 100 million tons of straw can regard existing 2—3 of our country country as the sources of energy use, and the straw amount of town biology quality and country is similar, but now is processing of the litter that be become only. If regard its as resource, the kind that apply and handles is different also. If use barren mountain moorland, saline land, desert again,rise, can hang with raw material stage by stage swallow the bait, its resources latent capacity will be inestimable. Long-term look, as the progress of science and technology, our country develops 15-20 the live thing of 100 million tons of standards is simple can resources capacity is a likelihood. Of course, this may need half century, even a century, the course develops for a long time and accumulate, the amount of the sources of energy that raw material can provide is met necessarily step up. Make full use of newspaper of the sources of energy of China of existing and mature technology: Although national policy gives aid to strength is finite, but the attention heat of research and development of technology of energy of material of opposite of scientific research bound does not fall all the time, and the country also has support of project of stress scientific research all the time. You think at present the most practical, can what can the raw material of industrialization use a technology to have? Yuan Zhenhong: Scientific research innovation is must some, the country should support, even if have some of thing,still attribute the level of original rational research only. Actually scientific group should have scientific imagination, drive at the same time it is the national economy service, technology innovation that promotes social progress directly. Scientific research is the technology of a reserve, for prospective technology innovation —— improves efficiency, reduce cost to serve. Often innovate the technology easily now and study confuse sth with sth else scientificly. Involve the technology that raw material can use at present, if shape coke of fuel, raw material, can replace coal. Give birth to material to burn gas for instance again, it is OK that raw material liquid is like derv of fuel alcohol, biology to wait popularize application energetically. Tell from the technology, I feel fuel of kerosene of such as aviation, synthesis is these new technologies, new craft, although be apart from industrialization further, should study with development, cannot make conclusions prematurely. Cellulose fuel alcohol also attributes the level of technical research and development, emphasize be misgivings prematurely popularizing application. And to been in at present of industrialization, technology of more mature biology qualitative energy, burn gas like alcohol of biology derv, fuel, biology, shape qualitative boiler of fuel, biology, should increase supportive strength, stimulative technology progresses, achieve industrialization progress as soon as possible. See raw material the sources of energy the sources of energy of economic advantage China signs up for from complete lifecycle: How do you look to restrict the economy problem that industry of raw material energy develops currently? Yuan Zhenhong: Problem of so called economy, because,be greatly we these year handle raw material can policy is inequity. At present our country biology pledges energy industry still is in earlier growth phase. Live thing is simple can the industry is so old development does not rise, the most primary reason is problem of ” of cost of alleged “ economy. Just think, below the circumstance of low coal price, low oil price, raw material the sources of energy competes very hard with kerosene, plus lack national economic policy supports, how can you develop rise? But, if we consider from complete lifecycle angle, raw material the sources of energy has economic advantage for certain. A bit can be make clear, raw material can remove environmental effect. In fact, if cost of those negative exterior sex traditional the sources of energy, be like environmental cost, zoology cost, and geographical cost is added, plus resource duty, such as coal and oil such traditional the sources of energy no longer cheap. If impose tax of environment of high specified number to traditional the sources of energy, use at allowance biology to be able to wait character but second birth the sources of energy, the development of industry of raw material energy is promising. Striving for fair market environment is newspaper of the sources of energy of development premise China: A kind of viewpoint says, present raw material the sources of energy is immersed in a kind of paradox: Of economy not environmental protection, of environmental protection wasteful. Also the viewpoint says, raw material can be popularized cannot pure rely on allowance, and should rely on the market. How do you look to this? Yuan Zhenhong: Benevolence person see benevolence, wisdom person see wisdom. I special hold with “ biology to be able to be popularized character cannot pure rely on allowance, and the formulation that should rely on market ” , but premise is the market environment that should have a fairness, below inequitable market environment, governmental subsidy and give aid to indispensable. The exploitation of mineral the sources of energy can affect ecological balance, destroy geological structure, use up finite rich, cause global climate change. And in the market value that these exterior cost did not reflect mineral the sources of energy, below environment of this kind of market requirement “ lays material can already economy environmental protection ” , even raw material can oneself walk into the market, be very inequitable? So, strive for fair market environment, it is the major task that industry of raw material energy faces. Demonstrative project cannot go no further amounts to newspaper of the sources of energy of China of mark ” ¡¡ at “ : With current technical progress rate, how should develop raw material can? Yuan Zhenhong: Above all, want to popularize application adequately to have mature technology, come out development of existing natural resources, build to implement scale, the system of industry of raw material energy that gets used to prospective development, the key should include to give birth to material to light alcohol of derv of gas, biology, fuel, shape fuel and live thing are simple generate electricity etc. What can consider a few mature techniques is compositive, form much product development of the system to use, preferential development scale is large and centralized live thing is simple resource, include birds cultivate excrement and urine, town to give birth to biology of material, industry to wait character, the dispersive resource such as straw had better regard distributed the sources of energy as systematic fuel. Chinese the sources of energy signs up for: Develop about giving birth to the future of corporeal energy industry, do you have He Jian to discuss? Yuan Zhenhong: Give birth to corporeal energy technology to what those mature, need creates favorable market environment to develop in order to promote its as soon as possible from policy, standard, code. If execute but quota of second birth the sources of energy is made, credit grade is made, taxation derate, advocate green GDP to wait, if encourage traditional energy company to pass,buy the small company that a few have a technology again, develop on development of industry of raw material energy a few be the first demonstrative action. Tell from resource angle, want to begin from the fountainhead of development, the resources estate of the forestry of the agriculture that develops the sources of energy, the sources of energy and the sources of energy, pledge for prospective biology can industrial proffer quality base, do good resource safeguard. In the meantime, should develop raw material energetically can new technology, new technology, give birth to corporeal liquid fuel and technology of its biology refine especially, this is prospective raw material can the technology propping up with industrial necessary development. The branch such as bureau of proposal nation energy resources is organized jointly and support the construction that studies demonstrative engineering, “ studies demonstrative project ” is not to resemble so called now demonstrative project, began by the contract be built a few years and move, assessment index achieved the project to be passed check and accept, everyone is happy, no matter follow-up craft is perfect,progressed with the technology. The “ that I say studies demonstrative project ” should want to do 10 years at least above, through the government ceaseless progress, system perfects ceaseless support, technology ceaselessly, advance straight, final implementation is commercialized.